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እሽ ዳሕና ዶ ውዒልኩም?
Good after noon?
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ይመስገኖ እግዝሄር.
Thanks to God, I’m pretty well.
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ስሞም መን ክብል?
What’s your name?
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ኣረጋዊ .
Aregawi.
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ኣረጋዊ
Aregawi.
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ኣረጋዊ ናብኦም ስም?
Your father’s name?
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ኣረጋዊ ገብረፃዲቕ .
Aregawi G/ Tsadik.
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ናይእንኦም ስም?
And your mother’s name?
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ናይእነይ ዶ .
My mother...
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እነይ ለተገብር ኤል ወለማርያም.
My mother’s name is leteGebriel w/Mariam.
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ለተገብር ኤል?
LeteGebriel
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ለተገብር ኤል ወለማርያም.
leteGebriel w/Mariam
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ልተወለዱሉ ዓመተምህረት?
When were you born?
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ኣይ ዓመተምህረት እኳ ኣይፈልጦይ...
I don’t know the year,
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ኣይ
but I’m
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ሰብዓይ ሓሙሽተይ ገይረ .
75 years old now.
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ኣይ ዓመተምህረት እኳ ኣይፈልጦይ .
I don’t know the year.
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ልተወለዱሉ ቦታ?
Your place of birth?
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ልተወለውድኩሉ እማ ኣብዙይ.
I was born here.
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ኣብባዕሉ ኣብዙይ ዓታሪ እምኒ ?
“ATARI EMNI”, at this village?
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እወ .
Yes.
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ኣብዙይ ዓታሪ እምኒ
At” ATARI EMNI”.
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ኣብዙይ ኸባቢ ድዮም ልነብሩ ማለት ድዩ?
So you live around this village?
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እወ.
Sure.
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ኣብዙይ ዓታሪ እምኒ?
At” ATARI EMNI”?
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እወ ዓታሪ እምኒ እየ
Yes, at ATARI EMNI.
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እ ስርሖም ታይ ድዩ?
What is your job?
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እ ስርሐይ እማ
I’m.. .
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ቤተክርስትያን .
a farmer.
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ኸመይ እዩ ?
How?
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ትቤተክርስትያን
church
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ምስራሕ ዶ ይሕሽ ኸምዙይ ናነደቕካ ወይስ?
Is it better to build a church or to hew one out of the rock?
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እቱይ እባ ይበልፅ.
The one is better.
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ናነደቕካ ዶ ይሕሽ እት.
Which one?
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ውቑር
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እምኒ?
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ውቑር እምኒ እባ ይበልፅ.
The rock hewn church is preferable.
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ንምንታይ ማለይት እዩ ?
Why?
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እ....
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ክሻዕ ሕልፈትካ እዙይ ናፈረሰ
The first may fall apart.
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ናፈረሰ ናበለ
But the
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መከራ እዩ .
rock hewn church is long
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እቱይ
lasting, and it
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ልወለዶ ወለዶ ልወለዶ ወለዶ .
can be transferred from
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ሕልፍ እዩ.
generation to generation.
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ኸመይ ግን ወጭ ድዩ
What is the reason?
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ኸመይ ግን ወጭ ድዩ
Whatis the reason
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ብምንታይ እዩ ብወጭ ድዩ ብደረጃ ድዩ ወይስ
that the rock hewn church
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ብምንታይ ምኽንያት እዩ
is to be carved?
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ውቕር ቤተክርስትያን ልስራሐሉ ?
Is it in terms of cost or what?
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እ ልስረሐሉ ?
The reason for carving?
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እ ልስረሐሉ
The reason for carving?
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እህ.
Yes.
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እ ብ ኣምላክ ብስላሴ ኣምላክ ብስላሴ
It’s with the help of almighty God
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እ ብ ኣምላክ ብስላሴ ኣምላክ ብስላሴ
It’s with the help of almighty God
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ብቐሽ ኣቢልና ተጠባባቓይ
and the top official of the church
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አለዎ እዩ አስሪሕዎ ዋና .
that we could build.
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ግን ብወጭ ደረጃ ኸ ኣይንኡ
But which one do you think is
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ይሕሽ ኢሎም ይሓስቡ ?
better in terms of their cost?
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ወጭ ደረጃ እማ
In terms of cost,
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እቱይ እትውቕር.
the rock hewn is preferable.
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ትውቑር ይበልፅ
The rock hewn is better?
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ትውቑር
Yes,
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ኣበይ እማ ክግነ
there is a big
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ኽንድኡ ልኾን ድኣ ኣበይ ይግነ.
difference, even
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ትውቑር ድኣ
it is hard to find
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ወዮ ኣቲኹም ክትር እይዎ
rock hewn ones. Anyways,
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ኢኹም እምበይ ትንግርት
you’ll be surprised,
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ድኣ ኾነይ.
when you get inside.
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ኸመይ ግን
How does a
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ብታሪኽ ታይ ስሙ እኒኤዎ ዶ ?
hewn church come in
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ብታሪኽ
to existence?
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ብኸዚ ኸምዙይ ዓይነት ምስራሕ ኸዚ ልትወቐረ ምስራሕ ኸዚ ታሪክ እኒኤዎ ዶ
Does it have a previous history;
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ብታሪክ ድዩ ኸምኡ ምስራሕ ልተጀመረ ወይስ ?
was such work done before?
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ቶም ልቐደም እማ .
As we have heard,
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እዙይ
those
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እዙይ ዘይሩ ዘይሩ ህንፃ
before us have
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ክት ስራሕ እያ ይብሉታ ነይሮም .
started
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ንሰም ቐደሞት
it. But What God
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ዋእ.
but..
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ዋ ታ ስላሴ ልሓሰባ
thought for us was
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ተሃኒፃ ተሰሪሓ .
built at this time.
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ኸዚ ኣብዙይ ዝሓድሽ እና
There is a new one here
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ብድሕሪት ለ ሃንቲ እኒኣ
and also an old church behind,
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ናቐደም እሳ ኸ ናቐደም ?
what about that?
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ናቐደም አላ ብድሕሪት
The old rock-hewn church, which
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ንእሽተይ
is behind the
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አላ ኣብሞንጉኣ እያ ገዲፍዋ .
new one, is very small
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እዙይ ብሓፋሽ
and still unfinished.
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ብሓፋሽ
The new one is completed.
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ሰሪሑ እኒኦ ትርእዩዎ ኢኹም
As you could see,
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ትንግርት እዩ .
the new rock church
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ሓሙሽተ ዓምዱ .
has five pillars.
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እሳ ኸ ልተፈለየ ስም
Does the old
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እንኤዋ ድዩ ዛ ብድሕሪት ዘላ
rock church
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ናይ ቀደም
have a different
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ውቅር ቤተክርስታን ከ?
name?
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ስም እንኤዋ ድዩ እሳ ኸ?
Does it have a different name?
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ዋእ እሳ እያ እምበይ ታይ እሞ.
No, that is it.
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ሓደ እዩ ኹለን ስመን
All the same?
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ስመን ሓደ ዳኣ ኾነይ ሓደ እዩ
Yes, similar name.
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እምበይ ስመን ሓደ እዩ.
Yes, similar name.
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ኸመይ እዩ ግን
When you planned
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ትስራሕ ተሎ እዙይ
to hew out the
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ዘብዙይ እኒኤ ምስ መፅሓፍ ቕዱስ
church,
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ለተሓሕዝ እንኤዎ
is it because there is
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ዶ ?
a connection,
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እዝ ውቑር ቤተክርስትያን
Does it have
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ምስ መፅሓፍ ቕዱስ
a connection with
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ለተሓሕዝ ነገር ?
biblical traditions?
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ለተሓሕዝ እማ ዝቐሽ
About connections . . .
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እዩ ልፈልጦ ኹሉ.
the priest knows more about that.
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ኸመይ ትስራሕ ተሎ
When hewing
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ኸዚ ካብ
the rock
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እግዝሄር
church,
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ምስ እግዝሄር ልጋነየሉ
is there
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ምክንያት እኒሆ ዶ?
any reason
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ወይስ
or
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ኸምዝ
is it connected
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ታይ እዩ ዝብሃል እዝ
with God
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ኸምዝ ውለታ ልምኽፋል
or something
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ልምኽፋል ድዩ
you
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ተመጽቢዕኻ ኔርካስ
promise to do
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ምስናይ ተብፅሕኻለይ
if your wishes
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ኻለይ
come
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ኸምዙይ ኽገብረልካ ድዮም ልብሉ ?
true?
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ዋይ
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እዙይ ብስላሴ
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እናታይ ኢና ንብል አለና
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ተምሊሰ
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ልብሃል ነይሩ .
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ዝቐሽ እዙይ
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ኣውራ ተጠባቢቑ
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ለስርሓ እዙይ እዩ .
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ኸዚ ዝቦታስ
What’s this
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ታይ ይብሃል ስሙ?
place called?
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ዓታር እምኒ ማውቃ
“ATARI EMNI MAWKA”.
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ዝቤተክርስትያን ኸ?
What about the name of the church?
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ዳማርያም
“ DAMARIAM
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ማውቃ .
MAWKA”
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ታቦ ኽንደይ እኔኤዉ ይኾን ውሽጢ ?
How many arks of the covenant does it have inside?
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ዋይ ታቦት
Oh! I didn’t know.
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እሞ ታይ ንፈልጥ
I prefer if
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እሱ ትቐሽ እዙይ እዩ
you ask this
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ልፈልጥ እምበይ ኣነ
question of
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ኣይፈልጥይ .
the priest.
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እት ኸዚ ት
Who chose the
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ቤተክርስትያን ስሙ
name for
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መን መሪፅዎ ?
the church?
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ትቤተክርስትያን መን መሪፅዎ ?
The name for the church?
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Yes.
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ቐደም ልፀነሐ
MARIAM MAWKA”,
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ዳማርያም ማውቃ .
as it was before.
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ካብቐደሙ እዩ
From a long time before?
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ካቐደሙ እዩ.
Yes.
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መን ኸምልመረፆ ይፍለጥ ድዩ
Does the person who chose the name, know?
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ዋ መን ዳኣ ታይ
I don’t think so.
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ንፈልጥ
Because we
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ልፀነሐና ዳማርያም
simply received it
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ማውቃ
from our ancestors
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እምበይ መን ከምልመረፆ
as “St.
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ዳኣ ኣነ ታይ ይፈልጥ
Mariam Mawka”
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ትቦታ ኸዚ ትስራሕ
Who gave you
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ተሎ መን እዩ
the license to
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ፍቓድ ሂብዎም
place the
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ሂብዎም
church here?
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ወይ ልፍቓድ ልሃቦም ?
Who gave you the license ?
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ዋ ወረዳ ሂብዎም
They get the licence from
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ከይዶም ፈቓድ
the district
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እማ ሂብዎም
officials.
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ይኾን እዚኣቶም እዮም .
After they get
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ላብወረዳ ኸይዶም
the license,
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ፍቓድ ሒብዎም እዮም ለስርሑ .
they start to work.
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እወ ካብዞም ጳጳስ
Either from the bishop
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ገለ ልመፀአ እኒኤ
or other communities
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ካብዞም ሓላፊ
of the church, were all
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ናወረዳ ቶም ሰበካ ጉባኤ ድዮም ?
the authorizations received in the process?
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እወ
Yes.
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እሳቶም መፂኦም ነይሮም .
Yes, they all were.
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ኸዚ ኸምዚ ተብል ተሎስ
Everybody or the group,
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ልተወሰኑ መራሕቲ
how would they decide on
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ድዮም ኽምኡ
this agreement?
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ተኣኪቦም
Would they get together
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ልወሰንዎ
in the church one
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ወይስ
day and talk about
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እት ሕብረተሰብ ተኣኪቡ
it or would the decision be left to a group
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እዩ መጀመርያ ኣፅዲቕዎ ?
of seniors?
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መራሕቲ እማ
Five to
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ተኣኪቦም
six people;
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ተኣኪቦም
they received authorization
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ትቐሽ ዝዋና ኣለዎም ኣለው
from the
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ኣለዎም ኣለው
community of
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ብዙሓት ኮይኖም እዮም
the church
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ዋይ
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ሓሙሽተ ሽድሽተ
were engaged.
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ይኾኑ እዮም
Five to six people,
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መራሕቲ ኮይኖም
received their authorization from
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ኣብወረዳ ይኹን
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ኣብወረዳ ይኹን ኽስታይ
the community of the
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ይኹን
church; they were
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ኣፍቂዶም እዮም ኣስሪሆምዎ እዙይ.
engaged.
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ስሞም ይፈልጥዎም ዶ ይኾኑ
Can you
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ዞኦም
remember
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ሽድሽተ ወይ ሓሙሽተ ልበልዎም?
their names?
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እቶም ኣብዙይ ለስርሑ ?
The administrator?
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ዋይ ምህረይ ገብረጊዮርጊስ
They are:
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ዋይ ምህረይ ገብረጊዮርጊስ እዙይ
the priest G/Georges,
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ምህረይ ኪዱ
the priest Kidu,
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ምህረይ ካህሳየ.
the priest Kahsaye...
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እ ኻሊእ.
What else?
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ኻሊእ
Others…
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መን መን እዮም ልበልዎም ዞም
Who are the people
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ኽልተ ዓንተዎ ልሓለፍናዮም?
that you mentioned earlier?
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ሓደ ምህረይ ገብረጊዮርግስ
Firstly priest
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እዙይ ዋንኡ
G/Georges,
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ምህረይ ካህሳየ
then priest Kidu,
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ምህረይ ኪዱ
then priest Kidu
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እወ ምህረይ ኪዱ
Priest Kahsaye, T/haimanot Yemane…
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ተክለሃይማኖት የማነ
T/haimanot Yemane?
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የማነ .
Yeman.
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ተክለሃይማኖት የማነ ?
T/haimanot Yemane?
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እወ.
Yes.
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እሱ ቐሽ የኾነይ ማለት እዩ?
Isn’t he a priest?
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ቐሽ የኮነይ
He is not a priest.
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ኣቓሽቲ እመ
Priest G/Georges,
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እን ምህረይ ታደሰ
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እንምህረይ ገብረጊዮርግስ
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እንምህረይ ጊደይ
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ፅወየኒ እስቲ ምህረይ ገብረጊዮርጊስ
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ቶም ምሳኹም ልሰርሑ.
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ንገረኒ እስቲ
could you
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እቶም ምህረይ ገብረጎዮርጊስ
tell me the names
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ኩሎም እቶም
of the people who
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ምሳኻትኩም ሓቢሮም ዝሰርሑ.
worked with you, please?
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እሳቶም ነብሎም ኢኣ እሞ ክብ ኡ
Ok! No matter let’s finish this
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ላብቲኣ ንምለስ ኢና ማለት እዩ .
first then we’ll come back to that one later.
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ኩሉ ልፈልጥ እማ እዝ
The person who knows
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ቐሽ እዙይ እዩ .
all that is the priest.
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ቐሽ ገብረጊዮርጊስ.
Priest G/Georges?
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እወ .
Yes.
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ዞም ኣስርሔምዎ ልነበሩ
Those who have been
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ሰባት ኸ መፂኦም ይፈልጡ ዶ ናብዙይ
administraters with priest
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ዞም ምስ ቐሽ ገብረጊዮርጊስ
G/Georges, do
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ልነበሩ ይጉብኒዩ ዶ ላመፅኡ ?
they visit the church?
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ወይለይ
Oh . . .it’s their
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ቤተክርስትያኖም እንድዩ
usual choice
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ናብይ እማ
where they can
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ክኸዱ ድአ.
go.
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እህ ካብ ክስታይ ሽሙ
From what’s called . . .
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ኸ ካብወረዳ
have they got
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ገለ ፍቓድ ተውሂብዎም ነይሩ ዶ
permission from the
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ካብ መንግስቲ ገለ ?
government?
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ኩሊኡ እንታይ ድየ ይብለካ አለኹ ኩሊኡ
That’s what I
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ዘለኩ
told
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እዝ ወረዳ
you earlier.
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ይኹን መንግስቲ
I don’t know
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ይኩን እማ
anything about
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ይኹን እማ እዙይ ትቐሽ
that.
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እዩ ኩሊኡ ልፈልጦ
The priest
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ኣነ ደንቆሮ እየ
will tell you
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ታይ ይፈልጥ
more
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ኩሊኡ ባዕሉ እዩ ልፈልጥ .
about that.
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እሽ ትቦታ ኸመይ ተቢሉ ማለት እዩ
Has the bishop
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እ ዞም ጳጳስ
or administrator
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ወይ ዞም ሓላፊ መፂኦም ይፈልጡ
ever come here
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ዶ ክርእዮ ላብዙይ ?
to visit?
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ዋይ
This question again . . .
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ኣብ ኡ እኒኦ ባዕሉ
again it is better
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ይፈልጥ እዩ
if the priest gives
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እሱ ትቐሽ እቱይ .
a response to it.
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ኸመይ ኸ እ
When you chose the
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ኣቕሓታት ትምረፅ ተሎ ገለ
materials and
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ኹሉ ሰብ ተነጋጊሩ
levelled the place for
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ቦታ ገለ ተቢሉ ድዩ
construction, did
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ቦትኡ ለስተኻክሎ
all the people
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ማለት ድዩ ?
discuss it together?
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ኹሊኡ ተስማሚዑ እዩ .
They ass agreed
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ኹሉ ሰብ ተስማሚዑ እዩ
You selected the location and
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ቦትኡ ስፍሓቱ
size of the new church,
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ገለ መሪፅዎ ትሓድሽ ልተሰረሐ
after all the church
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ዝሓዱሽ ዝተሰርሐ.
community had agreed?
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ታይ ዳኣ .
Yes.
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ቦታ ኸ ትመርፁ ተለኹም ኣብቱይ
Was there any
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ይኹን ኣብቱይ ይኹን ተባሃሂልኩም ኔርኩም ዲኹም ?
possible choice of site,
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ምስኻሊእ ሰብ
you said here
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ምስኻሊእ ቦታ ?
or you said there?
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ታይ እሞ
I haven’t
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ካሊእ ቦታ
anything
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ኣነ ታይ ድዬ ልብለካ አለኹ
to say.
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ኣነ ኸዚ ግዛዕ
Such questions
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ግዛዕ ምዛዕ የብለይ
will get
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ኹሊኡ ልፈልጥ
appropriate
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ዝ ቐሽ እዙይ እዩ
replyies from
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ኹሊኡ ልፈልጦ
the priest.
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ትቤተኽርስትያን ኸዚ ልኦኦም
What does
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ኸመይ እዩ
the church
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ኣብሂወቶም ኸመይ ኸመይ ገይሮም
bring
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ይገልፅዎ ዝቤተክርስትያን ኸዚ ልኦኦምስ ታይ እዩ ?
in your life?
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ልሳቶም ?
Are they?
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ዝቤተክርስትያንሲ
As you’re an inhabitant
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ልኦኦም ታይ እዩ ኸመይ ይገልፅዎ
of long years,
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ኸዚ ብዙሕ ዓመት እንድዮም ነይሮም ኣብዙይ
what would you say about the church?
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ኣነ ዶ?
Me?
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እወ .
Yes.
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እዋይ ታይ እሞ .
So what?
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ኸመይ ይገልፅዎ ኸዚ
What could you express
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እሶም ንዝቤተክርስትያን ?
about the church?
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ኣነ እዚ
As to me,
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ፅቡቕ
very good.
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ፅቡቕ...
excellent
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ይገልፆ
I become
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ብጣዕሚ
glad and
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ለሕጉስ እዩ
amazed.
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ልድንቕ እዩ ፅቡቕ .
Because there is no
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ኣነ ልባዕለይ
frustration
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ፅቡቕ.
of the church collapsing,
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ታይ ዳኣ
no need
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ካብዙይ ልበለ ዳኣ
of stone,
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ታይ እሞ
no cracks,
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....እዙይ
it will be
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ክፈርሰኒ ኣይብሃል
forever
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ክናቕዐኒ ኣይብሃል
and even
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ጭቃ ከምፅአሉ ኣይብሃል
it..
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እምኒ ከምፅአሉ ኣይብሃል
doesn't
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እ ክሻብ ሕልፈትካ እዙይ
seem
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ልደንቕ
like
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እዙይ ሰብ
any
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ሰሪሕዎ እኳ
human
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ለይመስል ልስላሴ
being
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ሰብ ልሰረሖ ኣይመስልይ
could
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እዙይ ድኣ ፅቡቕ.
do it.
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ፅቡቕ.
very well.
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እ.....
What can you say about the person or the people who built it,
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ኽንደይ ወሲድሎም ይኾን ልዞም ኣብዙይ ልሰርሑ ልነበሩ ሰባት?
Can you describe how long it took and what the impression was as the church was being built.
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ት ናይ ገንዘብ?
With respect to money?
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ዞም ኣብዙይ ዞም
Those who
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ኣፍቲኣ ልሰርሑ እባ ዞም
have been
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እዝ ልሰርሕዎ ልነበሩ?
working.
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ገንዘብ ዲኻ እንታይ?
So what . . . money?
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ጊዜ?
Period?
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ጊዜ ?
Period?
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ጊዜ እማ ሓሙሽተ ዓመት .
Oh, it took five years.
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ጊደይ ድዩ ሰሪሕዎ ጊደይ ልብሃል ይፈልጥዎ ዶ?
Who did that, Gidey? Or do you know who Gidey is?
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እወ.
Yes, I know him.
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ጊደይ ድዩ ሰሪሑ ወዲእዎ ኹሉ?
Was it Gidey who did everything or did anybody else help?
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ኣይ
Gidey didn’t finish
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ጊደይ የኾነይ .
his work.
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ጊደይ ኣብሞንግኡ ኸይዱስ
He left them
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አ....
behind and they brought
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እ ካልኦት እዮም
other people from
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ክፀፀራ ብዙይ ኣምፂኦም
a place called “TseTsera”
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ካብዝኸባቢ ድዮም መፂኦም
Did these people come from
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ወይስ ካብ ኻሊእ ቦታ ?
this village or from outside?
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ቶም ናይዝሰርሑ
They brought
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ክ ...
them from
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ቦታ
around a place
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ክድየ ክ
called “Abiy Ady”
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ዓብይ ዓዲ እዮም
or something like
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ብታሕቲ እዮም ኣምፂኦምዎም .
that.
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ኩሊኡ ልፈልጥ እማ
For better information you should
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ዝቐሽ እዝ እዩ ልፈልጥ .
ask the priest, he knows it well.
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ኸመይ ትስራሕ ተሎ ትቤተክርስትያን
Was there any
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ትውዳእ ተሎ ኸመይ ዝግጅት
celebration
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ነይሩ ዶ
when the church
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ሰብ ተኣኪቡ ገለ?
was finished?
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ወይለይ
Yes,
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እወ እኽል ማይ ተገይርዎ እንድዩ
we made festivityies
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ነይርዎ እኽል ማይ
with food
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ተሓሪድዎ
and drink.
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ስዋ ጠፊእዎ
We prepared
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ኽንደይ
injera
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ኽንደይ እኽል ማይ
(local food) and Siwa
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ዓዲ ተፅዊዑ
(local drink,
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ካብኻሊእ ዓዲ
in Tigrigna)
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ኽንደይ
for
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ስዋ ተፆሚቑ እንጀራ
the people
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ተሰንኪቱ
here
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እ ገንዘብ
and outside…
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በጊዕ ላሕሚ
and also we
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ተሓሪዳ.
slaughtered an ox.
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ድዩ ተፀዊዑ እንድዩ ካብኽንደይ ዓዲ.
It was very interesting.
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ሓንቲ ማዓልቲ ድያ ነይራ ወይስ ንውሕ ልበለ ጊዜ?
Was the celebration for one day or several days?
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For the invited
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ሓንቲ ማዓልቲ እያ ቶም ዕዱማት
people, it
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ሓንቲ ማዓልቲ እያ ቶም ዓዲ
was for one
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ቶም ዓዲ እማ
day.
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ብፅባሒቱ
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ተረፈ ነበረ
villagers, it was also
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እምበይ ሓንቲ ማዓልቲ እያ.
the next day as well…
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ዳስ ተሰሪሑ እኮ እዩ
because there was
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ብጣዕሚ ገፊሕ እዩ.
leftover food and drink.
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When you chose the particular day
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of the year, did you choose
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ወይስ ካሊእ ማዓልቲ ?
the day to coincide with the celebration of Mary, or another day?
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I do't remember
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the day. The priest
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ዝ ቐሽ እዙይ .
knows all these things.
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ጳጳስ ኸ መፂኦም ነይሮም
Did the
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ዶ ዞም ሓላፊ ገለ ?
bishop come?
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መፂኦም ነይሮም እወ.
Yes, they came.
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ዞም
But which
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ናየኖም
one, the
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ናይ ትግራይ?
bishop of Tigray?
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እወ .
Yes.
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ድዮም ወይስ ዞም ዋና ጠቕላሊ?
Or the Patriarch?
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እሞ ታይ ድየ ልብለካ ለለኹ
What I have tried
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to tell you is
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እማ ...
that I know
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ኣነ ሀዚ ደንቆሮ እየ
nothing.
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ልፈልጥ ኩሊኡ ትቐሽ እዙይ
The one who
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knows such things
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ኩ ሊኡ እሱ እዩ ባዕሉ ይፈልጥ እዩ .
is the priest only.
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Is there any holy
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ናማጨሎት እኒኤ ዶ?
around this village?
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ኣብዙይ ዶ
Yes.
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there
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ኣሎ
is,
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እወ ማጨሎት .
yes.
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ኣበይ ኸባቢ?
Where is it?
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ኣብዝ ና ዓዲ
The source is from
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ዕንቅርቲ ናገረብ
the place
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ልወረደ ኣሎ .
called “Adi Enkrti”, that way.
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በበይ ብዝርሑቕ ቦታ ብዝታት ድዩ ?
Where? Is it far?
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It’s nearby,
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ኣብዛ ክየ እኒኣ
past the
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ሕፃ
red
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ልወረደ
sand
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ደይቡ ኣሎ .
that way.
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ት ስም
Does it have a
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ስም እንኤዎ ዶ ትናማጨሎት ስም ?
particular name associated with it, with the holy water?
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ስም ዶ?
The name of the holy water?
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ማርያም ኣላ ኣብኡ
It’s Mariam.
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ማርያም ማውቃ ወይስ ማርያም ማርያም
Is it Mariam Mawka or Mariam what?
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ማርያም
What?
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ማርያም እማ
Mariam Adi Enkrti.
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ማርያም
Mariam
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ዓዲ ዕንቅርቲ ኣላ ኣብኡ ቑሸት
Adi Enkrti is the site name.
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ኣብኡ ኸይዶም ነይሮም ኣብኡ
Have you ever been there,
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ኸይዶም ይፈልጡ ዶ?
to Adi Enkrti?
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ኣብ ኡ እሱ
Yes, it
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ይኸድ እወ.
runs that way.
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ኽንደይ ጊዜ ኸይዶም ይኾኑ ?
How many times have you been there?
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ዋይ ወትሩ እንታይ ዶ
I usually go
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እሱ
every year
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ዓመታ
on day 21.
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ዓዲ ማይ ሓሊፋ እያ ታሕሳስ
Even in the previous
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ዓመታ
February
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ይግበራ እዩ እሳ
there was festivity
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እኽሊ ማይ
with food
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ተፆሚቑ እንጀራ እውን
and drink and
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ይፅሞቕ እዩ
also people
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እ ታሓፃቢ ሞሊኡ
who’ll be
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ይሕፀባ እዩ.
baptized.
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እሶ ኸ ብዙሕ ጊዜ ይኸዱ እዮም
Did you go many times?
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ይሕፀብ እየ.
Most of the time, I baptise there.
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እ ኣብኡታት ኸመይ
Is there any
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ዕዳጋ ቐረባ ዕዳጋ እኒኤ ዶ
market near
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ኣብዙታት ቐረባ ዕዳጋ?
this village?
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እወ ገለበዳ ኣላ
Yes, Gelebeda. And
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ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ .
it’s called Edaga Hamus.
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ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ
Edaga Hamus.
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ትዓዲ ባዕሉ ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ ካብዙይ ዲኹም ትኸዱ
Do you go from here to Edaga
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ወይስ ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ
Hamus, this village?
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ብኻሊእ እኒኤ ድዩ ወይስ
Or another Edaga
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ትናኻሊእ ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ እዩ .
Hamus anywhere?
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ዋእ ኹሊኡ ናኹሊኡ ዕዳጋ እያ እምበይ ናኹሊኡ ዕዳጋ እያ.
What’s called Edaga Hamus is a market for all.
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እህ ዛማዓልታ ድያ
Is it called Edaga
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ዕዳጋ ሃሙስ ?
Hamus, for the day?
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እህ ማዓልት ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ
Yes, it is
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እያ ሓሙስ እያ .
on Thursday.
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ኣብ ሓሙስ ሓሙስ ስለልትውዕል ማለት እዩ
It is so called because the market is held on Thursday?
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ሓሙስ ሓሙስ
Yes, it is held
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ትውዕል እያ.
every Thursday.
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ካብዙይ ብኽንደይ ደቒቓ ይበፅሑዎ ይኾኑ ወይ ብኽንደይ ሰዓት?
How long idoes it take to go from here?
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ዋይ ቐረባ እያ እሳስ ኣብዙይ እያ.
It is so close.
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ብኽንደይ ደቒቓ ብእግሪ ይበፅሑ?
How many minutes does it take on foot?
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ዋይ ታይ ደቒቓ ታይ ፈሊጠዮ ኣማዕዲኻ ትርአ እያ
I don’t know the time it takes.
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አብዚይ
But it is close,
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እያ.
you can see it from here.
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መንገዲ ብመኪና ዲኹም ትኸዱ
Do you usually go by
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ወይስ ብእግሪ ወይስ ?
car or on foot?
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ዎው በእጋርና ኢና
We always go on foot.
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ንሕና ታይ መኪና
But sometimes
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ንሓውዜን ኢና
when we go to Hawzen,
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ኣብመኪና ልኸድ ሰብ እምበይ በእጋሩ
we use a car for
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እዩ ሰብ ልኸድ.
transportation.
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ኽንደይ ሰብ ይኾን ኣብዙይ ልነብር ብዝሓቱ?
How many people live in this village?
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ታይ
What
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ታይ ትዕዳጋ
What...market?
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ኣብዙይ
What is the size of
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ብዙሕ ሰብ እባ?
the population here?
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እሞ እንታይ ድየ ልብለካ አለኹ
Sorry,
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እዙይ ዙ ኩሊኡ እዩ
I have
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እዙይ ቐሽ እዙይ ይፈልጦ
told you
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ኣንይ...
repeatedly
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ተውሳኸይ
that for
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ሓደ እውን
such questions,
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ትርእይ አለኻ ዓብየ እየ
you shall
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ሓደ እውን
ask
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ኽንድ እቱይ
the priest.
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ቱ ዓዲ ኹሊኡ
I know
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ባዕሉ ይፈልጦ እዩ ዝ ትቐሽ እዙይ
nothing.
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ኹሊኡ ባዕሉ እዩ ልፈልጥ እምበይ ኣነ
I know
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ልኾነ ኽንድዙይ ኣይፈልጥይ.
nothing.
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አይፈልጥን.
I do not know.
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ኣብዙይ ታይ ዓይነት ስራሕታት እኒአዉ ኣብዙታት እዙይ
What is done around here?
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እ.
Sorry?
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ኣብዙይ ታይ ታይ ይቦቕሉ?
What types of crops are grown here?
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ታይ እሞ ታይ ልቦቕል አሊእዎ .
What crops….
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ልቦቅል
. . . Crops such
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ከምዚ
as maize or
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ምሽብራሪሕ
something
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ምናምን የለይ፧
like that...
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ምሽባሕሪ
Even though
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ምሸላ
it..
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ጊዜ እንትግነ እዩ እምበይ
has season,
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ምሽባሕሪ ይኹን
maize and millet
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ምሸላ ይኹን እሳተን እየን ልቦቕላ.
are known crops growing.
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ኸመይ ክቦቅል ለይኽእል ማለት እዩ
Why not grow at any time?
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ቦትኡ ድዩ ለይምቸይ ኾይኑ
Is the place unsuitable for growning crops?
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እሱ እዩ
As you
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እሱ እዩ ናጣፍ
can see,
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እዩ እዙይ ትርእዮ
it is teff.
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አለኻ እዙይ እማ
However,
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ኣዝመራ ተሃልዩ
if there is a good
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ምሸላ ይዝራእ
harvest,
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ኣዝመራ እንድሕር
we will sow
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ለየለ ጣፍ .
millet instead.
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ኣብዙታት ታይ ልሰርሑ እኒኤው ሰባት
What do all
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ኸምዚ ላእምኒ
the people do here?
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ልወቕሩ እምኒ ድዮም ዝሰርሑ
Here? Are
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መብዛሕቲኡ ወይስ ዞም
Here? Are
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ጀበና ገለ ልሰርሑ እኒኤዉ
rock...
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ድዮም ወይስ
making kettle?
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ዞም ሓጭን ልሰርሁ
Among the people
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መብዛሕቲኡ ኣብዙይ ኸባቢ እዙይ ታይ እዩ ስራህ እኒኦ?
living around are there smiths?
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ታይ ኣሊዩ እዩ ኣብዙይ
No one.
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ልሰራሕ ዳኣ ግዛዕ
Everyone does
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የለይ እሱስ.
nothing here.
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ስራሕ የለን.
There is no work.
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ታይ እሞ ኣነ ልፈልጦ ኣሊዩኒ ኾይኑ እዩ.
That’s what I know.
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ዝኸምዙይ ልብሎም አሎ ኸዚ ታይ ድዩ
What we're
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እዚ ና ቐሪፅና ኸምዙይ ንገብሮ ለለናሲ
asking you is,
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ዝ ለይፍለጥ ልነበረ ታሪካት
by seeking to
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ኸምዝ ልተሰረሐ ናውቑር እምኒ
transfer the history
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ዕድመ ልክዑ ልፀንሕ ታሪክ
of carving
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ካባኹም ለለ ልደለናዮ ነገር
the rock church
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ንስኩም
to
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እሶም ብዙህ ነገር ስለልትፈልጡ
the next generation,
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ብዙሕ ነገር ስለልትርእዩ
do you
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ካባኹም ታርክ ለ ተቐቢልናስ
volunteer to
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ድሕሪ ኸዚ ለለ ልወደፊቱ
share with us
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ናተማሓየሸ ክኸድ ስለልደለየ እዩ .
what you know?
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እና ልኦም ለለ
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ልደለናዮ ነገር ተሃልዩ
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እዚ ነገር እዚሲ
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ብደንቢ
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ክፍለጠሎምሲ
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ፍቓደኛ ድዮም ፧
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ዋይ እሱማ
That's
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ታይ ድየ ልብለካ አለኹ
why they are here.
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ፍቓድ እማ
That's
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ካባይ ኣብ
why
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ኡ ዶ አለዉይ መፂኦም ደለዉይ
they are here.
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ኖኖ እዝ ናባዕሎም ንግግር እባ?
No no...We mean for your information
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እ ንባዕለይ እማ ፅቡቕ
Ok. As to me,
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ክስራሕ
it's
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ፅቡቕ ክሰፍሕ
my pleasure.
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ይደሊ.
My pleasure.
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እህ ታሪክ ክገልፁ
Is there anything you'd like to say
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ይደልዩ
about the history?
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እወ.
Yes.
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እዙይ ድኣ
The rock-hewn church is good.
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ክሻብ ሕልፈት ሕልፈትካ ታሪክ
This history will live from generation to generation.
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ዳኣ ኸምዙይ ልበለ ስራሕ ድማ ኣበይ ይግነይ እዩ
Where else can you find such amazing work.
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ኣይግነይ እኳ .
You cannot find it,
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ክሻብሕልፈት
until you come to life's end.
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ጭቃ ኽግበረሉ
You don't have to be conserned about it
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ኣይባሃል እምኒ ናፈረሰኒ ኣይባሃል
because you don't need to worry about repairing it or its falling apart.
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ዓምዲ
Pillars,
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ኸምፅእ ኣይትብሃል ሰረገላ ኸምፅእ
you don't need to transport them by
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ኣይባሃል.
vehicle.
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በቃ ክሻዕ ዘለኣለም
It lasts forever.